Dasung Paperlike HD-FT teardown

Hello eI-2030 community,

It’s a pleasure to be here! I’m excited to share and learn together. I recently did a post on “Building an E-Ink laptop” and my second post was a short teardown of the Dasung HD-FT; in short, the Dasung HD-FT uses the ES133T3 display module. The blog post has images of the teardown process, and over the weekend, I’m going to create an accompanying video for it.

If anyone has any questions or wants me to take additional pictures or check something, let me know.

Regards,
Alex


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Cool ! I wonder what this display at beck electronic costs to buy ?

That’s a good question. I’m not sure about beck-electronic. I quickly took a look at panelook.com. When looking up the suppliers and quantities available for the ES133TT3, there were 0 quantities and only 1 supplier who only works with VIP buyers.

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It would be interesting if there were a crowd-funded display for a e-ink monitor made to work with a Raspberry Pi-like SoC. For example, the Pine64 Quartz will have a e-display port connector. https://www.makeuseof.com/quartz64-e-ink-sbc/

It would cost money to develop a monitor with a native, low-profile eDP connector, as opposed to an HDMI display. This would allow the monitor to be built in any DIY tablet or laptop. If one were to contact the manufacturer, there might be a minimum order quantity, along with the development of the driver board. The Panelook says 75hz, but eDP supports lower and partial refresh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#eDP
" SR mode allows the GPU to enter a power saving state in between frame updates by including framebuffer memory in the display panel controller.[12] Version 1.4 was released in February 2013; it reduces power consumption through partial-frame updates in PSR mode, regional backlight control, lower interface voltages, and additional link rates; the auxiliary channel supports multi-touch panel data to accommodate different form factors.[88] Version 1.4a was published in February 2015; the underlying DisplayPort version was updated to 1.3 in order to support HBR3 data rates, Display Stream Compression 1.1, Segmented Panel Displays, and partial updates for Panel Self-Refresh.[89] Version 1.4b was published in October 2015; its protocol refinements and clarifications are intended to enable adoption of eDP 1.4b in devices by mid-2016.[90]"

Maybe the project could be posted on https://groupgets.com/ or https://www.crowdsupply.com/, so that minimum quantities are pledged before the product is even made, but still guaranteeing production.

Two things that could facilitate this would be a poll on Reddit, Twitter and this forum - for most sought screen size 13", 15" etc:

Someone know how to embed a poll? :slight_smile:

Then a quote from the manufacturer for the most popular screen size. The quote would be divided by the number of pledge investors and that would be the amount needed from each buyer to develop and produce the display. Something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_fund

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Let’s make it happen.

I agree with all of your points.

To reach that goal, I think some visibility and publicity would have to occur. I recently made a post titled “Building an E-Ink Laptop,” where I’m documenting the steps I’m taking to build an e-ink laptop, which generated a lot of interest. The past few days, I’ve had the good fortune and privilege to talk to many people working on amazing projects related to e-ink, and I have learned a lot and have shared my thoughts and discoveries.

One of the barriers to entry when working with e-ink panels of larger sizes is the price. One idea I had around this was creating the: “eI-2030: The Community Built E-Ink Laptop Project”, where community members pool resources and knowledge to build an e-ink laptop.

The laptop and panels travel to different people, they can hack and play around with it for some time, and they ship it to the following community member so we can test ideas out and reduce the cost of entry to people. The process of building an E-Ink laptop will be documented in a blog, a YouTube channel, and Livestream, allowing more people to access E-ink, learn, iterate, generate interest, increase visibility and benefit everyone.

And to throw my hat in the ring, I’ll loan my disassembled Dasung HD-FT to the “eI-2030: The Community Built E-Ink Laptop Project.”

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"The Community Built E-ink Laptop project sounds excellent! There would be a great benefit around developers and users talking about a product that they could all contribute to, kind of like the first linux kernel and open-source operating systems in the mid-90s.

I recently wrote an article exploring some of my thoughts on it: https://hackaday.io/page/10139-what-is-innovation-a-review-of-3-common-types Browsing many hackaday.io projects, it seems like there are a lot of hackers that develop/work in solitude. I don’t know if it is intentional or not, but it would be interesting to invite more hackers to work around a common design, like an e-ink laptop.

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I agree that it would benefit developers and users to talk about a common product and contribute to it. I also like the analogy you make to the first Linux kernel and OS in the mid 90’s.

Excellent post about innovation. I agree that many hackers and people are working in solitude, and it would be great to get people together.

I think this deserves its own thread/post for exposure to focus the conversation there.

UPDATE: Proposal: eI-2030 - The Community Built E-Ink Laptop Project

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